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	# [http://pelican.midrealm.org/peer_new.php?input=293 Francesca de Onorati], OP - Kingdom of the Midrealm (MKA: Norma Jean Storms )		# [http://pelican.midrealm.org/peer_new.php?input=293 Francesca de Onorati], OP - Kingdom of the Midrealm (MKA: Norma Jean Storms )
	# [https://op.antirheralds.org/index.php?who=1113 Elisabeth Piper], OL - Kingdom of An Tir (MKA: Elizabeth Mead)		# [https://op.antirheralds.org/index.php?who=1113 Elisabeth Piper], OL - Kingdom of An Tir (MKA: Elizabeth Mead)


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	# [[Hildebrand von Teil]], KSCA - [[Bryn Gwlad]]		# [[Hildebrand von Teil]], KSCA - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
	# [[Alaric Drake]], KSCA - [[Elfsea]]		# [[Alaric Drake]], KSCA - [[Elfsea]]
	# [[Timotheos Kalamanos]] - [[Elfsea]]		# [[Timotheos Kalamanos]], KCSA - [[Elfsea]]
	# [http://wimble.outlandsheralds.org/individual_record.php?PersonID=294 Asad ud-Din], OP - Kingdom of the Outlands		# [http://wimble.outlandsheralds.org/individual_record.php?PersonID=294 Asad ud-Din], OP - Kingdom of the Outlands
	# [http://www.chivalry.meridies.org/kane.html Kane Redfeather] - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann		# [http://www.chivalry.meridies.org/kane.html Kane Redfeather] - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
	# [[Cassius Domitius Lepus]] - [[Wiesenfeuer]]		# [[Cassius Domitius Lepus]] - [[Wiesenfeuer]]
	# [[Gabriel of Maccuswell]] - [[Elfsea]]		# [[Gabriel of Maccuswell]] - [[Elfsea]]


	====Order of the Rose====		====Order of the Rose====

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	==Conclusion ==		==Conclusion ==
	In completion and conclusion, I have learned and incredible amount. I have learned that the peerage is not just a paper honor or a belt, a medallion, or a scarf. It is a charge not form the crown but from the society to convey your craft to others, to be an example to others, and to be a representative to of the Society to those who have no knowledge of the Society. As a peer you are an expert of your chosen craft; a holder of a knowledge that you are expected to not only convey to others but improve upon and always maintain this knowledge. By enhancing and maintaining your practice you are modeling what a peer is to be in respect to their expertise. By practicing courtly graces and good behavior to peers and non-peers alike, you are showing that you are a model of decorum as well as knowledge. Finally, you must be that combination of excellent and well-maintained knowledge and upstanding behavior and decorum, you can be trusted by The Society to be a good representative of The Society.		In completion and conclusion, I have learned and incredible amount. I have learned that the peerage is not just a paper honor or a belt, a medallion, or a scarf. It is a charge not form the crown but from the society to convey your craft to others, to be an example to others, and to be a representative to of the Society to those who have no knowledge of the Society. As a peer you are an expert of your chosen craft; a holder of a knowledge that you are expected to not only convey to others but improve upon and always maintain this knowledge. By enhancing and maintaining your practice you are modeling what a peer is to be in respect to their expertise. By practicing courtly graces and good behavior to peers and non-peers alike, you are showing that you are a model of decorum as well as knowledge. Finally, you must be that combination of excellent and well-maintained knowledge and upstanding behavior and decorum, you can be trusted by The Society to be a good representative of The Society.


			==Interviews==
			===In-Person Interviews===
			====Laurels====
			#[[Aubrey de Baudricourt]], O.L. - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			#[[Galen of Ockham]], OL, O.P. - [[Loch Soilleir]]
			#[[Llywelyn Gruffydd]], OL - [[Steppes]]
			#[[Beorhtlic Folcwineson]], OL, OP - [[Northkeep]]
			#[[Adelaide de Bourbon]], OL, OP - Elfsea
			#[[Rhiannon ferch Cian]], OL, OP - [[Rosenfeld]]
			# [https://op.calontir.org/persona.php?p=230 Andrixos Seljukroctonis], OL - Kingdom of Calontir
			# [http://records.gleannabhann.net/public/person.php?id=696 Isabel Winterbourne], OL - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
			# [http://records.gleannabhann.net/public/person.php?id=336 Conall O Caindealbhain], OL - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann

			====Pelicans====
			#[[Ivar Runamagi]], OP - [[Bjornsborg]]
			#[[Caelin on Andrede]], OP - [[Elfsea]]
			#[[Adria Lorelle]], OP - [[Elfsea]]
			#Arianna, OP - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
			#[https://op.calontir.org/persona.php?p=2327 Jane Beaumont], OP, OL - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
			# [[Vanessa de Verona]], OP, Lady of the Rose - Ansteorra

			====Knights====
			# [[Hrafn Olafsson]], KSCA - [[Steppes]]
			# [[Vilhjalmr Thursasprengir]], KSCA - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			# [[Alejandro Ramirez Mendoza]], KSCA - [[Elfsea]]
			# [[Barn Silveraxe]], KSCA, OP - [[Wiesenfeuer]]
			# [[Hildebrand von Teil]], KSCA - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			# [[Alaric Drake]], KSCA - [[Elfsea]]
			# [[Timotheos Kalamanos]] - [[Elfsea]]
			# [http://wimble.outlandsheralds.org/individual_record.php?PersonID=294 Asad ud-Din], OP - Kingdom of the Outlands
			# [http://www.chivalry.meridies.org/kane.html Kane Redfeather] - Kingdom of Gleann Abhann
			# [[Cassius Domitius Lepus]] - [[Wiesenfeuer]]
			# [[Gabriel of Maccuswell]] - [[Elfsea]]


			====Order of the Rose====
			# [[Michelle Chantal de Charente]], OP - [[Elfsea]]
			# [[Toryn Sevenstitches]] - [[Elfsea]]
			# [[Valera Richila Navarro]] - [[Steppes]]
			# [[Nicollet Deuville]] - [[Stargate]]
			# [[Tessa of the Gardens]], OP - [[Bordermarch]]
			# [[Elizabeta di Valore della Rosa]] - [[Steppes]]
			# [[Julia de Montoya]] - [[Rosenfeld]]
			# [[Margherita de Mantua]] - [[Namron]]
			# [[Sonja Ryzaja]] - [[Elfsea]]
			# [http://records.gleannabhann.net/public/person.php?id=999 Morgana of the Mist], Kingdom of Glenn Abhann


			===Via Correspondence===
			These interviews were conducted via correspondence before September 2018. The mundane names have been included for those from outside the Kingdom of Ansteorra.

			# [[Katrionna Heather MacLochlainn]], OL, OP, OR - [[Wiesenfeuer]]
			# [[Gwenneth Bowynne of Glamorgan]], OL, MOD - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			# [[Corvin Fenarro]], MOD - [[Stargate]]
			# [[Eleanora Elizabeth Caley]], OP - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			# [https://op.calontir.org/persona.php?p=1998 Mellitus of Rouncivale], OL - Kingdom of Calontir (MKA: Tim Mercer)
			# [http://www.atenveldt.org/Heraldry/OrderofPrecedence/memid/2592 Duchess DelDiablo], O.P, Lion - Kingdom of Atenveldt (MKA: Nichelle Scott)
			# [[Marguerite Dinard]], OL, OP - [[Brad Leah]]
			# [[Alden Drake]], OP, OL - [[Gate's Edge]]
			# [[Gaston de Clermont]], KSCA, OL - [[Bryn Gwlad]]
			# [[http://www.atenveldt.org/Heraldry/OrderofPrecedence/memid/2256 Lyn of Whitewolfe], OR, OP - Kingdom of Atenveldt (MKA: Linda Scott)
			# [https://op.calontir.org/persona.php?p=838 Dirk MacMartin], KSCA - Kingdom of Calontir (MKA: Dirk MacMartin)
			# [https://op.antirheralds.org/index.php?who=6406 Rowland Greene], OP - Kingdom of AnTir (MKA: Jason Parchen)
			# [http://laurels.lochac.sca.org/user/198 Ulf Skeggisson], OL, OP (formerly Wulfwine of Grimwald), Kingdom of Lochac (MKA: Craig Hobden)
			# Petros Mystikos, OL, Kingdom of Meridies
			# [http://laurels.lochac.sca.org/user/38 Constanzia Moralez y de Zamora], Kingdom of Lochac (MKA: Rachel Vess)
			# [[Robin of Gilwell]], OP, Lion, OL, MOD - [[Steppes]]
			# [[Asoph Hearts]], KSCA, OP, Lion - [[Elfsea]]
			# [http://pelican.midrealm.org/peer_new.php?input=293 Francesca de Onorati], OP - Kingdom of the Midrealm (MKA: Norma Jean Storms )
			# [https://op.antirheralds.org/index.php?who=1113 Elisabeth Piper], OL - Kingdom of An Tir (MKA: Elizabeth Mead)

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	* Yes, it’s important to me to treat others with respect and dignity daily [mundane] level.		* Yes, it’s important to me to treat others with respect and dignity daily [mundane] level.
	* Yes, I don’t lie, I try to be honorable and help people.		* Yes, I don’t lie, I try to be honorable and help people.

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			==Section III: The Order of the Rose==
			These questions were written to be asked to and answered members of the Order of the Rose pertaining to the nature of the role of a consort.

			====What are the responsibilities of being a consort?====
			My take away in short: The responsibilities of a consort are varied and depend on the needs of the populace at the time of the crown’s ascension. For the consort specifically, roles may include being the sole royal presence at events, bestowing awards and recognition, holding various circles (meetings), making kingdom changing decisions, and paperwork. There is also the aspect of caring for the needs of your fighter so that they can fight and rule beside you. This is role that extends beyond the active reign of a consort.

			* The responsibilities of a consort are what is understood between the reigning monarchs what the consort will do.
			* Every consort of a knight should be ready for that time when she is princess and queen, so you care your fighter make sure that they have the things that they need. It is also necessary that you have the virtues that you strive to be beauty and grace that there is no doubt of your loyalty and devotion to your fighter.
			* The responsibilities of a consort vary from crown to crown. A lot of it depends on who you are reigning with and what they want you to do.
			* Here in our Kingdom this usually means responsibilities belong to both King and Queen equally. Responsibilities to include: being Royal Presence at events, inspiring the populace, bestowing awards and recognition, holding peer (and other consultation) circles, leading the Kingdom at Wars, doing all the behind-the-scenes paperwork, making the hard decisions (both public and private), protecting the hearts of the Kingdom and her people.
			* A consort is to inspire one beloved to do their very best the ways of honor and courtesy.
			* A consort is to represent that which is of all thing things chivalric
			* A consort is to uplift their beloved in the presence of others in conversation and be a gentle corrective medium to their beloved and to never correct or chastise in public.
			* To be a guide and inspiration to their fighter.
			* A consort is there to support and represent their partner in an encouraging and hospitable manner. They should support the fighter as well as hold them accountable. My current champion always asks me how I felt about his performance and I do my level best to be honest, as much as my experience allows.
			* Support your fighter, be able to be there, and be a support.


			====Why is the position of consort important and necessary?====
			My take away in short: Due to the amount of work, duties and attendance that is demanded of the crown, a consort is necessary to help with those royal responsibilities.

			* A consort is important and necessary because there is a large amount of work associated with the crown. There are tasks that are done that are unknown to the wider populace that has to be done and it can’t be done by just a sole monarch. It is important to have a second person there to help with that workload and delegate task if that is needed.
			* It is impossible for one person to do everything that the crown is to do. The purpose of the crown is to serve the people. It’s being a Barron and a Baroness times 100-fold.
			* The position of consort is important and necessary because no one person can do this job alone. Being the king crown is a full-time job. We do a significant amount of paperwork and review and research.
			* Courtly graces mean different things to different people. I imagine you’ll see a whole bunch of different answers for this question depending on someone’s persona, time period, years in the SCA, how interested in historical accuracy they are... that kind of thing. For me, courtly graces are the courtesies we show... like always bowing to the thrones, even if they aren’t occupied. Like addressing people in a medieval fashion, title if known or M’Lord/M’Lady if not known. Like offering to carry something for a person or allowing someone to enter a doorway ahead of you. And, aside from the physical side of things, always treating others with courtesy, respect, fairness or and honesty. That kind of thing.
			* It is important now and historically because the crown is equal and both share the same power to share and
			* Consort is the check and balance, the yin to yang, male to female, etc. Royalty is faced with a tremendous amount of responsibility including helping people to feel welcome. I am of a personal mind that there should be male and female counterparts (no preference of sexual proclivities, only the sex representation/identification) to ensure equality between the sexes. I think kids especially need to see people who are respectful to one another and offer some idea of their own "someday" potential.
			* I believe that the position is there to help balance out


			====What are courtly graces and why are there important?====
			My take away in short: Courtly graces are the manners, etiquette and good practices that are to be utilized in court. I guess one could assume, with some correctness, that courtly graces and the code of chivalry are, in a way related, but not one in the same. They are important because they are the way of showing respect and courtesy in court and outside of court and they give the event more importance and reverence.

			* There are many courtly graces, but of the many courtly graces, respect and courtesy are the most important in addition to observing sumptuary laws, titles and position with come later.
			* Courtly graces are the manners that you display whenever you are in public or in a court setting or even in private with others during a game in the SCA.
			* The courtly graces give you an idea, a focus [to know what need to be done and accomplish.]
			* Basically, they are your manners. Its showing respect for the reign and who they are. Courtly graces help elevate the event and are more important [to counterbalance in the mundane world to keep respect in the SCA]
			* When looking at the courtly graces, they are the things that you expect from a good and perfect knight. The literature of the middle ages provides the template for this so that it is known that is to be looked for because it what makes our society rich and good.
			* The courtly graces are important because it gives you a standard of what is expected. If you don’t know what to do, it gives you a place to start.
			* Courtly graces mean to me always ensuring that the other person feels recognized and listened to and acknowledged.
			* These are a matter of etiquette and can vary from kingdom to kingdom. Generally, though, it is a matter of kindness and manners. Whether one knows particulars of a tradition or not, please and thank you goes a long way to a "successful" reign. That said, the more a royal pair can describe what's happening or can demonstrate knowledge and honor traditions, the more it plays into what we're doing.


			====What is expected of a consort?====
			My take away in short: What is expected from a consort is grace in all matters, attentiveness to your champion and your populace and an unshakable dignity.
			* It is the responsibility of a consort to do everything to support whatever position they have gotten. As a Rose, as a princess, a queen, the job is to support the kingdom because it is just too big of a job to do by oneself.
			* I cannot answer these questions as I have never been a sitting consort. However, I have watched sixty plus consorts over the years and I know when the consort is being a good one and when they are not. A consort must above all else be gracious and take time to speak to everyone who has business with them.
			* Given the size of our Kingdom, there must be a consort to the King or Queen who won Crown Tournament. That gives twice as many ears and eyes to try and do what is right for the Kingdom and the people of the Kingdom. The consort, be they male or female, will always be the inspiration for the rapier community, as they have been ever since the rapier community came into existence back in 1983 during the reign of Simon and Tessa (9th Crown of Ansteorra in AS 17). This is why the rapier community looks as Countess Tessa as the most revered Rose.
			* Since I hold both rulers equal, I expect the same high standard of conduct for both. And really this is pretty simple... in a room full of kids playing dress-up, the Crown should always be the adult. With very few exceptions, they should not meet anger with anger. They should not be vindictive or jealous or retaliatory. They must make the hard decisions (because even in our pretend game there are real problems to solve) and have shoulders broad enough to bear the weight of unhappy people because “right” choices aren’t always popular.
			* When one of my fighters in on the field, I am attentive to the immediate needs of my fighters. I attend to them with drink, and attend to their needs related to fighting.
			* With dignity – always. The less emotional and the more gracious, the better. Kindness is king (or queen, or prince, or...) It is upsetting to many to see royals or nobles act in a way that is petulant or hostile. We are supposed to be the example for all and when we are ungracious or rude – it is louder and more damaging to people’s experience than most any other party in the SCA.


			====How should a consort, regardless of gender, conduct themselves? ====

			My take away in short: A consort should behave respectfully, have courtesy, honor and acknowledge the persona that is fighting for them, know their priorities and make sure their priorities are ordered well, and exercise the proper virtues and graces that are expected of them.

			* A consort should behave respectfully, have courtesy, honor and acknowledge the persona that is fighting for them.
			* You must be able to listen, you must figure out a plan with your partner. You must have time for people. Making sure you have an entourage that you can work with.
			* Always with dignity and control yourself in public.
			* The highest expectation of a consort is to put your populace first.
			* One who is an inspiration should always be honest, have courtly graces, and create within their fighters an assurance of encouragement and support.


			==Conclusion ==
			In completion and conclusion, I have learned and incredible amount. I have learned that the peerage is not just a paper honor or a belt, a medallion, or a scarf. It is a charge not form the crown but from the society to convey your craft to others, to be an example to others, and to be a representative to of the Society to those who have no knowledge of the Society. As a peer you are an expert of your chosen craft; a holder of a knowledge that you are expected to not only convey to others but improve upon and always maintain this knowledge. By enhancing and maintaining your practice you are modeling what a peer is to be in respect to their expertise. By practicing courtly graces and good behavior to peers and non-peers alike, you are showing that you are a model of decorum as well as knowledge. Finally, you must be that combination of excellent and well-maintained knowledge and upstanding behavior and decorum, you can be trusted by The Society to be a good representative of The Society.

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	==Section I~~.==~~		==Section I: Laurels and Pelicans ==
	~~===~~Laurels and Pelicans ===
	These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Laurels and Pelicans pertaining to the nature of being a laurel or pelican and having a student of any sort working under them.		These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Laurels and Pelicans pertaining to the nature of being a laurel or pelican and having a student of any sort working under them.
	====What does it mean to be a peer in the SCA? What does it mean to be of your specific peerage in the SCA?====		====What does it mean to be a peer in the SCA? What does it mean to be of your specific peerage in the SCA?====

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	* There should be a passion for either what they're going to teach or what I going to learn. There should be a commitment.		* There should be a passion for either what they're going to teach or what I going to learn. There should be a commitment.

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	==Section II: Knights and Masters of Defense ==		==Section II: Knights and Masters of Defense ==
	These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Knights and Master of Defense pertaining to the nature of what chivalry is and how it is to be enacted.		These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Knights and Master of Defense pertaining to the nature of what chivalry is and how it is to be enacted.

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As a teacher or a student, did you look for any qualities or traits in a possible teacher or student before you initiated a teacher/student relationship? If so, what were those traits?

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	* I am part of a very large household and look for students that will fit in with our group. It is important to me that any candidates and I have formed a friendship first. I count all of my former squires as close friends and continue to be part of their lives in Society and in the mundane world. The sense of humor and love of the game. On squires, I look for the love of combat. The dream of being a knight in shining armor who is the shield of the weak. I look for similar body styles and attitude. On protégés, Someone who seeks tough jobs. Anyone who wants to		* I am part of a very large household and look for students that will fit in with our group. It is important to me that any candidates and I have formed a friendship first. I count all of my former squires as close friends and continue to be part of their lives in Society and in the mundane world. The sense of humor and love of the game. On squires, I look for the love of combat. The dream of being a knight in shining armor who is the shield of the weak. I look for similar body styles and attitude. On protégés, Someone who seeks tough jobs. Anyone who wants to
	* There should be a passion for either what they're going to teach or what I going to learn. There should be a commitment.		* There should be a passion for either what they're going to teach or what I going to learn. There should be a commitment.

			==Section II: Knights and Masters of Defense ==
			These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Knights and Master of Defense pertaining to the nature of what chivalry is and how it is to be enacted.

			====Being new to the SCA, can you explain accurately and historically what chivalry is? What is your personal understanding of Chivalry?====
			My take away in short: Chivalry can be defined as a set of behaviors expected of anyone who is considered a knight or a fighter who is part of an elite or upper class of fighters. The components of the code of chivalry have changed over time taking with additions of rules and values and changes in the understanding of components of the code, such as the understandings of honor, duty, prowess, humility, and sacrifice. Despite these changes, the code has stayed essentially what it has been since its inception. At the same time, members of the chivalric class have developed personal understandings of chivalry and have made it adaptable to both their Society lives and their mundane lives.

			* In a nutshell, chivalry is a set of behaviors expected of anyone who is a knight. What specific behaviors are expected will vary depending on time period and location. The modern view of chivalry is based on a modern view of chivalry that looks back to the original concept of chivalry but there is some overlap.
			* I know that for me, chivalry is how a gentleman should always comport himself around the ladies. It is also one of the more important aspects of all of our fighting styles in that everyone who takes the field should conduct themselves in a manner that shows respect for their opponent and for the person that they are fighting for. Because our fighting is based on an honor system for calling shots, being honest with how you call the shots is, to me, of utmost importance.
			* From the standpoint of what is a Knight, I always expect them to be chivalrous towards the ladies, to comport themselves in an honorable fashion at all times on the field, to aid those who are unable to defend themselves, to give protection to everyone and above all stand up for our Kingdom.
			* Chivalry is basically the equivalent of mundane integrity, doing the right thing even when people aren't watching. Historically, William Marshall has been used as the example [of chivalry]. He knew how to treat people and take care of his people and handle different obligations.
			* Historically, the chivalry were the horsemen of the army. Now chivalry with a big "C" is the romantic pursuit of ideals, courtly love and the defense of the weak.
			* Dating back to the time of Charlemagne, Honor, duty, prowess, humility, and sacrifice have been chivalric virtues.
			* Doing what is necessary not always what you want to do.
			* The ability to be the best in combat and the ability to hold yourself up and beyond.
			* My personal understanding is graces and the ability to be humble.
			* Historically, chivalry was not something you displayed to the masses. It was more for the people equal or above your social status. It didn’t really affect how they treat those below them. This is different from the SCA where you’re expected to be chivalric to everyone.
			* Chivalry has multiple meanings. It all depends on who you ask. Chaucer, William Marshal, the various knights of the rose or garter in modern England. Additionally, though the word chivalry was not used...the Norse, Germanics, Celts, Romans, Persians, etc. etc... all had their version. Oversimplified chivalry is the code that guides your hand in day to day and military activities. Treat others how you want to be treated. Give of yourself. Honesty. Help those in need. Defend the weak. Chivalry touches on religion but I am not a religious person, however, follow your religious leanings and do not speak down to other religions. Chivalry to me in the SCA...(I am a 6th-century DalRidian Celt). Defend my lord. Defend our way of life. Defend my lady. Defend the defenseless. Support when needed. Resist the evils that twist our being.
			* Honesty. With honesty, you can find and address your own faults. These faults can be in a multitude of areas. Prowess, comportment, language, general behavior...
			* Chivalry is an idea of respect. It's about things we have already been taught; treat others how you want to be treated. It all comes down to respect.
			* There is SCA chivalry and there is historical chivalry…

			====Which chivalric values do you think are most important and why?====
			My take away in short: It seems that of all the chivalric values, honor “official dignity, repute, esteem. ”, prowess “distinguished bravery and extraordinary ability. ” and franchise “having all of the other Chivalric Virtues and having them consistently. ” seem to be valued as the most important among those questioned. Other seemingly important virtues are faith, humility, service, generosity, virtue, duty, courtesy, and a willingness to teach.

			* The classic number of seven chivalric virtues is standard, but the common values that are mentioned are prowess, franchise, faith, humility, service, etc. In an SCA context, humility, franchise, are important. Humility is important because it helps to keep one in perspective. Franchise is a way of saying that everything fits together nicely. It’s a blending of all the other virtues put together.
			* Honor above all else is the most important. Without honor, a person is not a person who should be in our game. Too much of our game assumes that everyone is an honorable person. When anyone fails to behave in an honorable way, they have broken the ideal and the basis of the entire SCA.
			* For me, now that I don't fight anymore, my honor is of utmost importance. I try very hard to be honorable, and thus chivalrous, in everything I do in the SCA. I attempt to make sure that my word is my bond and that I can be trusted without question. Being human, I fail at this at times, but try to repair any issues that I have caused by not living up to what I said.
			* Prowess, franchise are important values for me.
			* For me, Honor, at and grand and personal level, Franchise, being an ideal that someone looks up to, is important to me.
			* Generosity, franchise, courage are important chivalric virtues.
			* Above all, honor, duty, courtesy, without honor, there is no chivalry.
			* Ability, prowess, willingness to teach and go up and beyond and help others.
			* Often, they are boiled down to a list of 8 or 10… to me I think prowess is the more important for a knight because of the populace need an example of what is right.
			* Prowess is the virtue that defines us as an order. It’s the defining virtue of chivalry. Franchise as a concept is something that encompasses all the other virtues.
			* In the SCA, … I believe that franchise is the most important because we do this for fun.


			====How do you enact chivalry in your SCA activities? ====
			My take away in short: In short, chivalry is enacted in various ways in SCA life. Those that practice chivalry do so by teaching, making efforts to be honorable, conducting themselves in a way that portrays and embodies the prized ideals of knighthood such as honesty, courage, and gentility, treating others as they wanted to be treated, and being virtuous overall.

			* By fighting and teaching the next generation. One should do their best to make sure that those that come after you have the same activities that you do.
			* For me, now that I don't fight anymore, my honor is of utmost importance. I try very hard to be honorable, and thus chivalrous, in everything I do in the SCA. I attempt to make sure that my word is my bond and that I can be trusted without question. Being human, I fail at this at times, but try to repair any issues that I have caused by not living up to what I said. I apply the same rules to my mundane life as well. It has become second nature to be that way after 34 years in the SCA.
			* I conduct myself as a leader on and off the field, teach and help whenever and wherever I can. Treating others as I want to be treated.
			* By being honest and honest in praise in my mundane and SCA life
			* By upholding honor and being courageous and unafraid to do the right thing.
			* Always try to help the ladies and anyone who needs guidance, honor the king and queen and do my duty
			* Chivalry, in my SCA activities....my lady often tells me I give too much of myself. Mundane life...yes...daily. I am a teacher. I specialize in students with behavior difficulties. I always give a student the opportunity to make things right. What happened yesterday was yesterday, today is a new day. That is a difficult thing to actually believe.


			====Do you enact chivalry in your mundane life? If yes, how do you do this?====
			My take away in short: Yes, among those interviewed that practice chivalry in the SCA try to enact chivalry in their mundane lives as well.

			* Yes, it’s important to me to treat others with respect and dignity daily [mundane] level.
			* Yes, I don’t lie, I try to be honorable and help people.

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	* The SCA is built on this relation. It’s how they learned their trade based on the historical model.		* The SCA is built on this relation. It’s how they learned their trade based on the historical model.
	* It is the best way to teach, one-on-one. Historically it is the best way to teach because you learn better and you can focus on what is being taught.		* It is the best way to teach, one-on-one. Historically it is the best way to teach because you learn better and you can focus on what is being taught.

			====What should a student expect from their mentor?====
			My takeaway in short: The nature of the relationship seems to be an important expectation. The student and teacher should get along or at least be reasonably amicable. Other important expectations seem to be decorum, social ability, personal outlook, being a source of knowledge and answers, an ability to work hard, advocacy and guidance.

			* It should be a relationship based partly on friendship. There should be a preexisting relationship there. Before the student-teacher relationship begins. This will increase understanding of the relationship.
			* A student should expect from their mentor availability of resource pertaining to the student’s art, not just the teachers
			* Decorum should also be expected from the mentor. Also, an ability to interact with all people of different statuses and an outlook on people that is close to your own.
			* To be an example to you as a student and to other peers.
			* Above all a student, in any relationship, should expect support from their mentor in all things that they attempt or do in the SCA, assuming these things are good. The student should always get answers to their questions about anything that pertains to the SCA and the relationship they are in.
			* I would expect my protégé to expect me to work as hard as they do so that I can work alongside them.
			* I believe there are two primary aspects an apprentice should expect from their mentor – guidance and advocacy. Guidance should come in a variety of forms: 1) teaching them art(s), 2) helping to find others to teach them art(s), 3) developing peer like qualities, 4) teaching them aspects of competitions as a competitor and as a judge, including teaching them how to receive and give feedback, 5) being there to answer the apprentices questions, or help them find those answers. Advocacy comes in being the apprentice’s representative to the Laurel’s circle. The Laurel should bring the apprentice to the attention of the circle when the time is right, and also should bring feedback from the circle to the apprentice and help them work on anything the circle feels could use improvement. In addition to those two aspects, the mentor should give to the apprentice a deeper friendship and level of trust, be a confidante, sounding board, and a voice of experience. A mentor should always strive to be there to support their apprentice (i.e., help them prep to teach classes, sit in on the classes, be there after competitions to discuss results, etc.).
			* Friendship, Assistance as needed, Someone who will listen and accept criticism and advice. This does not imply obedience. They don’t have to agree and/or change – just listen, understand, appreciate – and then choose their own path, Enthusiasm for learning (and not just in their chosen art), A willingness to embrace the complete SCA experience.
			* The should expect support, belief in them, a person that they bring their question to and get an answer or direct to when they can find the answer. The should be approachable, serious and at times not.


			====What should a teacher expect from their student? ====
			My take away in short: Honest, and Effort; an ability to communicate effectively your needs and wants and especially question and commit to your art/craft, the ability to conduct yourself in a civil and respectful manner, a willingness to improve your art and be a representative for your art form. Probably most important is for a student to learn how to accept criticism of their art, identify constructive feedback from destructive feedback, digest it, apply the constructive feedback to your craft while discarding the not so constructive feedback. Also, students should learn not take critiques personally. Concerning their art, they should work toward a goal of developing their own personal character and peer-like qualities through the practice of their arts and interaction with the arts community. The student may also be called upon to teach the mentor. Finally, student should be making art, and consider serving in A&S offices, teaching and competing as part of their development, and of course be active in the Society.

			* All I can say is what I expect from my protege, that being honest, as much effort as they can do given real life, and that they communicate with me with any questions, issues or problems. Since when I take a protege, they become family, I also expect them to be civil and respectful of each other and my wife.
			* I would like to see in my proteges' dedication to the kingdom, bring something new to the kingdom that makes it better.
			* The mentor should expect the apprentice to be willing and focused on improving and championing their chosen art form(s). There is always room for improvement, and the apprentice should always be seeking those things to further their chosen art(s). I expect my apprentices to learn how to accept criticism of their art – to take feedback, digest it, apply the constructive feedback, discard the rest, and not take critique personally. Learning to receive feedback helps teach how to give good feedback. A mentor should also expect the apprentice to develop their own personal character and peer-like quality through the practice of their arts and interaction with the arts community. I think it’s also important for an apprentice to teach something of value to the mentor. An apprentice should also be ready to support their mentor in things the mentor does (i.e. teach a class if the mentor is a class coordinator).
			* Communication and commitment. Anyone who enters into a relationship with someone should always be on the path to peerage. Some can do it in a short time; others (like me) have life interrupt their time in the Society. You have to be involved in the Society to advance. Make art, serve in A&S offices, teach and compete. I expect my associates to let me know their plans on attendance and projects on a regular basis. Their trust that they path the mentor is leading them on is in their best interest.
			* Honesty, hard work dedication to their project, to their art. And time away from it all. And understanding that they will progress that their pace. It is their job to help not to dominate.


			====As an apprentice what is the best way to prepare for an apprenticeship? ====
			My take away in short: How to prepare for an apprenticeship: Step 1: decide what subject area(s) in which you would like to advance. Step 2: become knowledgeable of the peers that you would like to form a relationship with that also have a keen knowledge of the craft you would like to learn. Step 3: Talk to your potential teachers about what you would like to do and learn as much from that peer as you can. Step 4: Start working on your craft and if you are chosen to be a student, be prepared to listen, learn and improve your craft.

			* Talk to your potential teachers and make sure that you are expecting the same thing out of the relationship.
			* Anyone contemplating becoming a student to any Peer must first become knowledgeable of the Peer that they would like to form a relationship with. The best way to do that is to just talk to the peer about what they do and what they would expect or require from each other.
			* The best way to prepare is to meet people, establish links and
			* I believe the most important thing to do to prepare for an apprenticeship is to find a mentor who you want to foster a deeper relationship. I believe this is the most important aspect. Whether they do your art, or not, your mentor should be someone you have a bond with that you feel supersedes any other teacher-student relationship. You may have many people teach you things over the years, but a mentor should be one person with whom you have a bond that goes beyond just teaching. Also, you'll want to consider the importance of proximity – do you want a mentor that is local to you, in-kingdom, or are you ok with an out of kingdom mentor? Is your potential mentor active, or are they retiring from being SCA-active? Are you ok if the mentor has a lot of other apprentices, none, or just a few? How do you get along with their other apprentices? It is vital to sit down with a potential mentor and talk to them about what you are looking for and what concerns you have.
			* Actually… once you are an apprentice, it is a bit late to prepare for an apprenticeship – but prior
			* to the official joining, you should know your own heart – know what you want to accomplish, what help you feel you need, and how much time, effort, and wealth you are willing to commit. Try to understand the culture of the SCA and its sub-groups – and how you and your peer will interact with them.
			* Get to know as many peers in all disciplines as possible. Know about all aspects of the Society
			* 1. find the right Laurel talking to laurels and finding the one that is best for you. 2. have a goal. Know what it is you want from the AS and what you are willing to give to the AS and be prepared for that you change.


			====As a teacher, what is the best way to prepare for a student? ====
			My take away in short: Think long and hard about what 1. What you want to teach your student. 2. What you can and can't teach and 3. How you can work with different personality types; In other words: Have a plan. You should know what you want to accomplish, what help you feel you can offer, and how much time, effort, and wealth you are willing to commit. If there is something you can't teach, be prepared to direct your student to someone who can teach what they want to learn. In addition to teaching your knowledge of the craft, be prepared to teach an understanding of the culture of the SCA and its sub-groups and how you and your student will interact with them. Be prepared to lay the groundwork for the teacher/student relationship and know who your go-to people will be to help you with any issues that may arise. Communicate expectations clearly and early in the relationship to avoid issues later and let the student know that you are open to their communication on anything relating to their craft or otherwise, if you choose. And finally, prepare any materials or information your perspective student may be needed.

			* The best way… realize that you are going to work together. You may not be the best of friends but you would be able to work together. It is best not to take a friend as a protégé.
			* I was fortunate to mentor an artist who was an apprentice to another Laurel. His Laurel, however, didn’t do his art, so they reached out to me to work with him on his art. I think that was invaluable to prepare me for being ready to take my own apprentices. I think a mentor also has to be ready to commit to giving their apprentices priority over things they might otherwise do – and still find the fun to be had in doing so. If you’re not ready to give of your time and effort for another person, then you aren’t ready to be a mentor.
			* "Best" is complicated. As with most teaching things, it depends on the learning style of the student and what their challenges are. My apprentice and my squires have access to my library and workshop. They literally have keys to my house. Two of them have lived with me. They're like family, and I see part of the obligation I have to help them back on their feet when life knocks them down. They can't enjoy being a squire or apprentice if they don't have a place to live, or cash to get to events.
			* Know your own heart – know what you want to accomplish, what help you feel you can offer, and how much time, effort, and wealth you are willing to commit. Try to understand the culture of the SCA and its sub-groups – and how you and your apprentice will interact with them. Make sure you have relationships both within the Order of the Laurel and without that will assist, rather than resist, your efforts to move your apprentice forward on their path.
			* Have a plan in place. Lay the groundwork for the apprenticeship. Know who will be your go-to people to help you with any issues that may arise. Communicate expectations clearly and early in the relationship to avoid issues later. Prepare any accoutrement that may be needed. I always have a gift for the persons S.O. at the beginning. Decide on any ceremony that may be done at the beginning.
			* Know what kind of people that you can motivate. Know yourself. What you can do and what you can't do.
			* Also, know the personality types you can work with. Know yourself and know your target audience.


			====As a teacher or a student, did you look for any qualities or traits in a possible teacher or student before you initiated a teacher/student relationship? If so, what were those traits?====
			My take away in short: Again, different people value different things in general, therefore different peers will value different qualities in their students. Some qualities that may be sought out by teachers/students are: a passion for the craft that they want to pursue, the ability to keep their Society life and mundane life in good order, being a person that the peer may want to or be able to be friends with or add to their household or group, someone who has a focus on developing skills and improving their art, someone who makes efforts to learn, listen and seek out knowledge of the craft, a love of the game and love for their craft, a willingness to do what needs to be done the accomplish the task, and commitment to their task.

			* The most important thing in forming any relationship in the SCA is to know what the person you want to enter into the relationship with is like in every respect. If you don’t know what the person is like you are entering into the relationship with, and there are major differences in the way you think, act or believe, the relationship will fail. For my protege, I have to know them as an individual before I would take them as a protege. All of my proteges are my friends and remain that way as long as they don't do anything heinous that would make me get rid of them. And being friends, it is easier to talk to them about what they are doing, or not doing, that helps them along the path to a peerage.
			* As a mentor, I look for someone with a passion for what they do, has both their mundane life and SCA life in good order, is someone I feel would add to my SCA family, and is focused more on improving their art over getting the award.
			* For me, the apprentice has to make some effort to learn, to listen, and seek out knowledge of the crafts we pursue. I'm expected to teach, and include her in learning opportunities, and introduce her to other experts who can take her interests farther. She represents me to some degree, so I request that she bear that in mind and try not to embarrass me, and I try to do the same.
			* I am part of a very large household and look for students that will fit in with our group. It is important to me that any candidates and I have formed a friendship first. I count all of my former squires as close friends and continue to be part of their lives in Society and in the mundane world. The sense of humor and love of the game. On squires, I look for the love of combat. The dream of being a knight in shining armor who is the shield of the weak. I look for similar body styles and attitude. On protégés, Someone who seeks tough jobs. Anyone who wants to
			* There should be a passion for either what they're going to teach or what I going to learn. There should be a commitment.

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	===Laurels and Pelicans ===		===Laurels and Pelicans ===
	These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Laurels and Pelicans pertaining to the nature of being a laurel or pelican and having a student of any sort working under them.		These questions were written to be asked to and answered by Laurels and Pelicans pertaining to the nature of being a laurel or pelican and having a student of any sort working under them.
	#What does it mean to be a peer in the SCA? What does it mean to be of your specific peerage in the SCA?		====What does it mean to be a peer in the SCA? What does it mean to be of your specific peerage in the SCA?====
	My take away in short: As a Laurel or Pelican, you are a symbol, a representation of the best of what The Society has to offer. As a symbol, you are visually, in appearance and action, what The Society is. As an example, you are a model of what a society member should be, upholding high ethics that are prized in the society as a whole; such as service, being a source of information, leadership, mentorship, as well as a model of conduct and behavior. As a representation, you are entrusted by the society with the responsibility of being a representative of The Society to the mundane world.		My take away in short: As a Laurel or Pelican, you are a symbol, a representation of the best of what The Society has to offer. As a symbol, you are visually, in appearance and action, what The Society is. As an example, you are a model of what a society member should be, upholding high ethics that are prized in the society as a whole; such as service, being a source of information, leadership, mentorship, as well as a model of conduct and behavior. As a representation, you are entrusted by the society with the responsibility of being a representative of The Society to the mundane world.
	* You are an example of the SCA for other SCA.		* You are an example of the SCA for other SCA.
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	* For me, being a peer is a job and should also carry over to life outside the SCA. So, if you need help in or outside of the SCA, I will help you. Also a peer, one should help connect you to resources you and be an advocate and peerage circles. Also, being a counsel to the crown and help out at events is part of being a peer.		* For me, being a peer is a job and should also carry over to life outside the SCA. So, if you need help in or outside of the SCA, I will help you. Also a peer, one should help connect you to resources you and be an advocate and peerage circles. Also, being a counsel to the crown and help out at events is part of being a peer.

	# What are the responsibilities and duties of being a peer? What are the responsibilities of being of your specific peerage?		====What are the responsibilities and duties of being a peer? What are the responsibilities of being of your specific peerage?====
	My take away in short: A peer is a representative of The Society; an example of its best aspects almost an extension of The Crown. They are expected to make themselves available to speak on the SCA. They are to help, advice The Crown and others. They are models of respectfulness, duty, knowledge, and watchfulness. Also, peers should call attention to good acts and those living up to the ideals of The Society, be active in their promotion and participation of Society events, teach and convey knowledge of their craft.		My take away in short: A peer is a representative of The Society; an example of its best aspects almost an extension of The Crown. They are expected to make themselves available to speak on the SCA. They are to help, advice The Crown and others. They are models of respectfulness, duty, knowledge, and watchfulness. Also, peers should call attention to good acts and those living up to the ideals of The Society, be active in their promotion and participation of Society events, teach and convey knowledge of their craft.
	* You are a representative of the SCA. You are showing your best aspects of the SCA, an embodiment of the dream. Almost an extension of the crown.		* You are a representative of the SCA. You are showing your best aspects of the SCA, an embodiment of the dream. Almost an extension of the crown.
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	* Admittance to the Orders of the peerage comes with great responsibilities. A peer is expected to exemplify grace, courtesy, and chivalry. A peer should be able to interact with peoples of all stations equally and respectfully. A peer must have the strength of character to speak or be silent when necessary. This includes providing sound advice to the Crown. In addition, a Laurel is expected to teach and, where possible, mentor those that share their passion. They must promote the practices of Arts and Sciences throughout the Kingdom and beyond. Doing all in their power to enrich the SCA experience for all by producing and fostering works of art and scientific accomplishment. It is their duty to recommend to the Crown those the Order see fit for elevation. A Pelican should continue to strive to enrich the SCA experience for all by fostering and performing service. Where possible a Pelican should pass on the skill set they've developed. It is their duty to recommend to the Crown those the Order see fit for elevation.		* Admittance to the Orders of the peerage comes with great responsibilities. A peer is expected to exemplify grace, courtesy, and chivalry. A peer should be able to interact with peoples of all stations equally and respectfully. A peer must have the strength of character to speak or be silent when necessary. This includes providing sound advice to the Crown. In addition, a Laurel is expected to teach and, where possible, mentor those that share their passion. They must promote the practices of Arts and Sciences throughout the Kingdom and beyond. Doing all in their power to enrich the SCA experience for all by producing and fostering works of art and scientific accomplishment. It is their duty to recommend to the Crown those the Order see fit for elevation. A Pelican should continue to strive to enrich the SCA experience for all by fostering and performing service. Where possible a Pelican should pass on the skill set they've developed. It is their duty to recommend to the Crown those the Order see fit for elevation.
	* The responsibilities and duties of being a peer start with what I have already mentioned and go on to systematically forwarding the chivalry, history, and pageantry of the SCA. Taking on formal mentoring relationships and teaching, teaching, teaching, both formally and informally. For a Laurel, it means taking Apprentices and Students and continuing to research and make things. I teach classes at almost every event I attend. It can mean entering Championship Competitions and fulfilling the job of Champion. It can mean being willing to judge. For me, it means hosting a weekly Music Night with vocal and instrumental ensembles that perform at Baronial events.		* The responsibilities and duties of being a peer start with what I have already mentioned and go on to systematically forwarding the chivalry, history, and pageantry of the SCA. Taking on formal mentoring relationships and teaching, teaching, teaching, both formally and informally. For a Laurel, it means taking Apprentices and Students and continuing to research and make things. I teach classes at almost every event I attend. It can mean entering Championship Competitions and fulfilling the job of Champion. It can mean being willing to judge. For me, it means hosting a weekly Music Night with vocal and instrumental ensembles that perform at Baronial events.
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			====The Knights have a code of Chivalry, is there a code of ethics that your specific peerage follows?====
			My take away in short: The code of Chivalry, whether classical, authentic, or the modern versions passed down to us from the Victorians, could be understood as applying to every Peerage, but there is no one code of conduct that applies to all or every peerage, officially. Virtues such as honesty, trustworthiness, integrity, honor, wisdom, maturity, fairness one would assume to be valued by most of the peerage.
			* [You are also as a peer, an all in one.] You must have aspects of chivalry, courtly love, and graces, arts and sciences, etc.
			* The code of Chivalry applies to every Peerage, in my mind at least. The only other Peerage that has any code to follow, as far as I know, is the Masters of Defense.
			* I do know that if you ask a group of peers what qualities they prize in a candidate, most will list common values like honesty, trustworthiness, integrity, honor, wisdom, maturity, fairness… all the usual suspects. Many of these were found in the code of Chivalry. For myself… I am squired to a Knight (since 1989), and although Chivalric peerage is no longer something I pursue, I keep that station to remind myself of the Chivalric ideal virtues that drew me to the SCA. They are the first traits I aspired to and are still worthy goals for any peer or someone who wishes to be.
			* There is no universal code ethics as I understand the term. I believe that peers of every stripe should understand Chivalric virtues and come to an understanding of how that relates to their specific peerage. "Prowess" for a Laurel would be workmanship and skill at their craft. "Franchise" would be how the Laurel brings their craft to the rest of the Kingdom and the SCA. These are my opinions and I encourage you to research the Chivalric virtues and decide how they relate to what you do.
			* My Orders of the Pelican and Laurel have no specific ethical codes. However, as a peer who swears fealty, I see my oath as containing my code of ethics. It's within the words of the oath that I make the commitment to serve my Kingdom with honor and humility.
			* I believe that the code of Chivalry informs all aspects of the SCA, especially the Peerages. I don't think that the Knights have an exclusive right to Chivalry. I explain to my Modern friends that being a Laurel is like being a Knight, but for Arts and Sciences. I have been a heavy fighter, but I don't consider that the combat is what makes our organization special. I believe that Chivalry is what makes us special. My understanding of Chivalry is that it mandates honor, kindness, bravery, and inclusion.
			* I think all the peers have that code of chivalry. You should give constructive not destructive criticism and that is the code of conduct for laurel and pelicans.