Lloyd von Eaker - Revision history

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	* "The thing is, about the Masters of Arms, is a thing that came from Richard the Short. Richard was very religious and was unwilling to swear fealty. I don't recall which particular flavor of religion he was a member of, but they would not swear to anything, as their oath was given to G-d. So they came up with the optional thing of Master at Arms. Years later, when [[Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid]] was being brought up to be belted - you're always brought up to be a Knight, not to be 'belted' - and of course, that's cultural: different Kingdoms have different traditions and rules, different ways of handling it - But at that time, OUR culture was that you were brought up in the Belted circle to become a Knight. Masters didn't get mentioned. Someone would go and ask you, and you might refuse, and then: tough luck! OR they might come back and ask if you would accept Master. That was a thing that we had promulgated here a lot - that when you are offered Knighthood, you aren't being offered a choice between it and Masterhood. If you wanted to be a Master, you might not get it. I don't remember of a single case where it was done - where if you did refuse Knighthood, you weren't later given Master - but it wasn't guaranteed. One of the things that had occurred was that one of my students, Starhelm, who I have mentioned, wanted to be a Master in Meridies. They refused to belt him - to give him a belt. They said that they were not going to have any Masters in their Kingdom. Why, I won't get into, because the stories are so muddled, I don't know the truth of the matter. But they didn't want a Master at Arms. So Bevin de Frasier (Katherine Kurtz) got involved, and they came up with yet another peerage: The Knights Bachelor of the SCA. There were only two given, and it was never formalized by the Board of Directors. So he was a knight without a chain. That had always rankled with me. That they had treated him like that. When I became a belted fighter, they called me outside to talk, after the major part of the feast was done, and asked me if I would accept Knighthood, and I refused. That threw them for a loop, and so they came back later and asked if I would accept Mastership, but that they really wanted me to accept Knighthood. Richard the Short and I had come to a meeting of the minds a bit on his perspective and what he was talking about, and i felt that Mastership was more appropriate for what I wanted to be. I was also a kid, and I was stupid. I should have just become a knight." ("Oh, that is one other thing that Korwyn got wrong. I am no longer the Premiere Master at Arms. When I had to stop fighting, I resigned my Mastership.")		* "The thing is, about the Masters of Arms, is a thing that came from Richard the Short. Richard was very religious and was unwilling to swear fealty. I don't recall which particular flavor of religion he was a member of, but they would not swear to anything, as their oath was given to G-d. So they came up with the optional thing of Master at Arms. Years later, when [[Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid]] was being brought up to be belted - you're always brought up to be a Knight, not to be 'belted' - and of course, that's cultural: different Kingdoms have different traditions and rules, different ways of handling it - But at that time, OUR culture was that you were brought up in the Belted circle to become a Knight. Masters didn't get mentioned. Someone would go and ask you, and you might refuse, and then: tough luck! OR they might come back and ask if you would accept Master. That was a thing that we had promulgated here a lot - that when you are offered Knighthood, you aren't being offered a choice between it and Masterhood. If you wanted to be a Master, you might not get it. I don't remember of a single case where it was done - where if you did refuse Knighthood, you weren't later given Master - but it wasn't guaranteed. One of the things that had occurred was that one of my students, Starhelm, who I have mentioned, wanted to be a Master in Meridies. They refused to belt him - to give him a belt. They said that they were not going to have any Masters in their Kingdom. Why, I won't get into, because the stories are so muddled, I don't know the truth of the matter. But they didn't want a Master at Arms. So Bevin de Frasier (Katherine Kurtz) got involved, and they came up with yet another peerage: The Knights Bachelor of the SCA. There were only two given, and it was never formalized by the Board of Directors. So he was a knight without a chain. That had always rankled with me. That they had treated him like that. When I became a belted fighter, they called me outside to talk, after the major part of the feast was done, and asked me if I would accept Knighthood, and I refused. That threw them for a loop, and so they came back later and asked if I would accept Mastership, but that they really wanted me to accept Knighthood. Richard the Short and I had come to a meeting of the minds a bit on his perspective and what he was talking about, and i felt that Mastership was more appropriate for what I wanted to be. I was also a kid, and I was stupid. I should have just become a knight." ("Oh, that is one other thing that Korwyn got wrong. I am no longer the Premiere Master at Arms. When I had to stop fighting, I resigned my Mastership.")
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	* In response to [[Tales of Freana Geardson]]: "[[Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid]] has one detail wrong in that tale. Freana and I did talk. I told him he would have to give back his belt, but I would ''not'' guarantee that he would get the Mastership. We did not come to an agreement that he would. When he was called up in court, he did not know for sure what was going to happen. That was another layer of the situation that Korwyn was not in on. Every other time I had dealt with someone who changed their position - their title - [[Jonathan DeLaufyson]] for example - I told them that if they resigned their knighthood, I would not guarantee that they would receive the baldric. It had to come from and go through the Belted Circle. We weren't just going to willy-nilly let folks go back and forth. It did happen that way in some Kingdoms at that time; people would drop the chain and take a baldric, if there was someone on the Thrones they didn't want to swear fealty to. I thought that was kinda stupid - that if you don't have enough courage to back up your word, that you shouldn't be doing it. So when Freana came up there, we surprised him with the Pelican. And THEN he had to go fight me. But part of the fighting me.. that was to add more to the ceremony of the Mastership. And it also allowed me to personally see if they were good enough to be a Master. I had trouble in the Belted Circle with that, because my set of qualifications to become a belted fighter was a bit higher than most people's. I felt they had to be capable of at least scaring me. But, as [[Randall von Nordlichwald]], our second Prince told me, "Lloyd, that's not very fair to them." So I had to come up with other definitions. With the Masters of Arms, I felt that since they were not serving their Kingdom like a Knight does, that they needed to prove themselves better than a knight. So part of the ceremony was that fight. Since I was the second and the fourth King, it helped create some of the early traditions of our Kingdom - that they had to face a Master of Arms on the field before it would be granted. For two early reigns, the Master of Arms was me.		* In response to [[Tales of Freana Geardson]]: "[[Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid]] has one detail wrong in that tale. Freana and I did talk. I told him he would have to give back his belt, but I would ''not'' guarantee that he would get the Mastership. We did not come to an agreement that he would. When he was called up in court, he did not know for sure what was going to happen. That was another layer of the situation that Korwyn was not in on. Every other time I had dealt with someone who changed their position - their title - [[Jonathan DeLaufyson]] for example - I told them that if they resigned their knighthood, I would not guarantee that they would receive the baldric. It had to come from and go through the Belted Circle. We weren't just going to willy-nilly let folks go back and forth. It did happen that way in some Kingdoms at that time; people would drop the chain and take a baldric, if there was someone on the Thrones they didn't want to swear fealty to. I thought that was kinda stupid - that if you don't have enough courage to back up your word, that you shouldn't be doing it. So when Freana came up there, we surprised him with the Pelican. And THEN he had to go fight me. But part of the fighting me.. that was to add more to the ceremony of the Mastership. And it also allowed me to personally see if they were good enough to be a Master. I had trouble in the Belted Circle with that, because my set of qualifications to become a belted fighter was a bit higher than most people's. I felt they had to be capable of at least scaring me. But, as [[Randall von Nordlichwald]], our second Prince told me, "Lloyd, that's not very fair to them." So I had to come up with other definitions. With the Masters of Arms, I felt that since they were not serving their Kingdom like a Knight does, that they needed to prove themselves better than a knight. So part of the ceremony was that fight. Since I was the second and the fourth (Editor's Note: Sixth) King, it helped create some of the early traditions of our Kingdom - that they had to face a Master of Arms on the field before it would be granted. For two early reigns, the Master of Arms was me.
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	* At the Belted Circle where Korwyn was brought up, several of the Knights were upset with him for wanting to become a Master. One of the Knights brought up a Duke from the West, one of the Founding members who had agreed to make Richard the Short a Master. It was said that the genie was out of the bottle; that you can't NOT acknowledge a worthy man. And that's where I chose to make Korwyn fight me at the tournament, to get his belt. He got his baldric that day. That was part of the rationale behind that. Most of the Masters at Arms - in Ansteorra, at least, I don't know about outside Ansteorra - had to fight.		* At the Belted Circle where Korwyn was brought up, several of the Knights were upset with him for wanting to become a Master. One of the Knights brought up a Duke from the West, one of the Founding members who had agreed to make Richard the Short a Master. It was said that the genie was out of the bottle; that you can't NOT acknowledge a worthy man. And that's where I chose to make Korwyn fight me at the tournament, to get his belt. He got his baldric that day. That was part of the rationale behind that. Most of the Masters at Arms - in Ansteorra, at least, I don't know about outside Ansteorra - had to fight.

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	====Additional Registered Heraldry:====		====Additional Registered Heraldry:====
			Either the name or the following badge associated it (or both) were registered in March of 1978 (via Atenveldt):
			Gules, a baton argent, overall a sword, tip fracted, inverted proper.
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	\| OP = [https://op.ansteorra.org/people/id/3043 Lloyd von Eaker]		\| OP = [https://op.ansteorra.org/people/id/3043 Lloyd von Eaker]
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	\| devicecaption =		\| devicecaption = Gules, a rattlesnake coiled lozengy erminois and pean, rattled, armed, langued, and wearing an embattled crown argent.
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	** Master of Sciences, Barony of [[Stargate]]		** Master of Sciences, Barony of [[Stargate]]

	* Regional Offices ~~held~~		* Regional Offices Held
	** Knight Marshal of the Principality of Ansteorra		** Knight Marshal of the Principality of Ansteorra

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	== Mundane Information: ==		===Mundane Information:===
	Email: [mailto:Ducdallas@aol.com Ducdallas@aol.com]		Email: [mailto:Ducdallas@aol.com Ducdallas@aol.com]
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			"Don't come after me with a sword. I might hurt you."
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	== Affiliations: ==		===Affiliations:===
	* Married to [[Joselyn Allyne Reynard]]		* Married to [[Joselyn Allyne Reynard]]
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	==Notable Contributions or Accomplishments: ==		===Notable Contributions or Accomplishments:===
	* Twice Crown of Ansteorra		* Twice Crown of Ansteorra
	* 10th founding member of [[Stargate]]		* 10th founding member of [[Stargate]]
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	* "One stupid accomplishment that I always thought was interesting ... Now, on the website for the SCA, they list the office of Master of Arts and Science - there is a notation that sometimes those are separated into two separate office. In our first reign, we combined it. After we did so in Ansteorra, they mirrored that at Corporate. Now, I can't prove that they did it because of us, but I always thought it was interesting that they did."		* "One stupid accomplishment that I always thought was interesting ... Now, on the website for the SCA, they list the office of Master of Arts and Science - there is a notation that sometimes those are separated into two separate office. In our first reign, we combined it. After we did so in Ansteorra, they mirrored that at Corporate. Now, I can't prove that they did it because of us, but I always thought it was interesting that they did."
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	===Non-Armigerous Awards and Recognitions===
	[[File:Lloyd Fighting.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|]]		[[File:Lloyd Fighting.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|]]
	* The Grand Poobah and Muckety-Muck of Stargate: This one's going to be a rather long and rambling story. I had had a really bad week. And we were going to the tournament and I had decided I was not going to fight. This was a tournament for fun, put on by Robert. He was the autocrat, and basically put the event on for fun. And for some reason, a LOT of people showed up. I was told that the Prince of the Outlands was there. A friend of mine that was a Master of Arms was there - Gunvalt. And Randall von Nordlichwald was there. A LOT of really good fighters. I was just pissed off at the world and didn't want to fight. But then then they called my name to the field. I walked over, and said, "WHAT?!" My wife had gone and gotten all of it done behind my back - had gotten my armor inspected, signed me up for the lyst, and I was told that I was facing someone in the tournament. So I made a decision at that point to allow my opponents to pick whatever weapons they wanted - for both of us. In one bout, I faced great sword, with only a dagger. That was one of the more interesting fights, but I continued to win every round. We got down to the end, and there's this one guy there with this beautiful costume, a huge display on his helmet, and I thought perhaps he was the Prince of the Outlands. Randall had gotten knocked out, several other people had gotten knocked out, the guy in fancy garb had gotten knocked out, and it was just down to me and Gunvalt at the end. Then someone came up to me, and told me that he, Gunvalt, was the Prince of the Outlands! So I decided that he was skilled enough that I was going to fight with my own chosen weapons, of sword and shield. Gunvalt was a BIG man. A left hander. We fought for quite a bit, and neither of us could hit the othe one. I couldn't figure out exactly how he was protecting himself. There's this myth that left handed fighters are better than right handed fighters. Really, what it is, is that left handers fight right handers far more often than right handers fight left handers. Well, I fought more than most people. Not more than Gunvaldt, but a lot of experience fighting left handers. So I realized that the way he was standing, I could see where he was hidden behind his shield by watching his shadow on the ground. So, the next time he closed, I reached over and hit him on the leg - because I could finally tell where he was unprotected. He went down, and I jumped forward, straddled his shield, and hit him right on top of the head, what I thought was a really good blow. He knelt there and looked at me. But he didn't go down. So I hit him again. And he just looked at me. And I hit him again. And then I realized; he couldn't fall over - I was holding him up. And he was going, "But.. I was dead!" And I said, "But you were looking at me!" (Joselyn adds that the hardest part of all that, was carrying the heavy armor box.)		* The Grand Poobah and Muckety-Muck of Stargate: This one's going to be a rather long and rambling story. I had had a really bad week. And we were going to the tournament and I had decided I was not going to fight. This was a tournament for fun, put on by Robert. He was the autocrat, and basically put the event on for fun. And for some reason, a LOT of people showed up. I was told that the Prince of the Outlands was there. A friend of mine that was a Master of Arms was there - Gunvalt. And Randall von Nordlichwald was there. A LOT of really good fighters. I was just pissed off at the world and didn't want to fight. But then then they called my name to the field. I walked over, and said, "WHAT?!" My wife had gone and gotten all of it done behind my back - had gotten my armor inspected, signed me up for the lyst, and I was told that I was facing someone in the tournament. So I made a decision at that point to allow my opponents to pick whatever weapons they wanted - for both of us. In one bout, I faced great sword, with only a dagger. That was one of the more interesting fights, but I continued to win every round. We got down to the end, and there's this one guy there with this beautiful costume, a huge display on his helmet, and I thought perhaps he was the Prince of the Outlands. Randall had gotten knocked out, several other people had gotten knocked out, the guy in fancy garb had gotten knocked out, and it was just down to me and Gunvalt at the end. Then someone came up to me, and told me that he, Gunvalt, was the Prince of the Outlands! So I decided that he was skilled enough that I was going to fight with my own chosen weapons, of sword and shield. Gunvalt was a BIG man. A left hander. We fought for quite a bit, and neither of us could hit the othe one. I couldn't figure out exactly how he was protecting himself. There's this myth that left handed fighters are better than right handed fighters. Really, what it is, is that left handers fight right handers far more often than right handers fight left handers. Well, I fought more than most people. Not more than Gunvaldt, but a lot of experience fighting left handers. So I realized that the way he was standing, I could see where he was hidden behind his shield by watching his shadow on the ground. So, the next time he closed, I reached over and hit him on the leg - because I could finally tell where he was unprotected. He went down, and I jumped forward, straddled his shield, and hit him right on top of the head, what I thought was a really good blow. He knelt there and looked at me. But he didn't go down. So I hit him again. And he just looked at me. And I hit him again. And then I realized; he couldn't fall over - I was holding him up. And he was going, "But.. I was dead!" And I said, "But you were looking at me!" (Joselyn adds that the hardest part of all that, was carrying the heavy armor box.)